tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091756463128804432.post5357185287407410248..comments2024-03-27T02:55:10.109-07:00Comments on Irish Papist: Irish Nationalism and Irish CatholicismMaolsheachlannhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09406722311993627528noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091756463128804432.post-67107904694781332502019-09-27T14:28:43.039-07:002019-09-27T14:28:43.039-07:00are you quoting deliberately quoting the last word...are you quoting deliberately quoting the last words of the Bunreacht na hÉireann? as you may or may not know after its last article, the constitution concludes with the words ""Dochum Glóire Dé agus Onóra na hÉireann". Although that phrase is in Irish (Even in what is otherwise the English lanauge text), a phrase you used is word for word what I got when I put that into google translate. just curious, nice reference if it was intentional<br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091756463128804432.post-40664131896319215322016-12-30T09:58:37.239-08:002016-12-30T09:58:37.239-08:00Yes indeed-- in fact, I think there was a potentia...Yes indeed-- in fact, I think there was a potential tension between the republican movement as it emerged during the revolutionary years of the early twentieth century (solidly Catholic for the most part) and the radical, Protestant/agnostic organisations which it regarded as its precedessors, such as the United Irishmen and Young Ireland. I think it was rather fortuitous that 1916 had the Catholic colouring that it did.<br /><br />Personally, my nationalism is visceral, and its Catholic flavour is also visceral (though entirely approved by my rational mind). I can't help being an Irish Catholic nationalist.Maolsheachlannhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09406722311993627528noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-7091756463128804432.post-51272845355781067822016-12-30T05:35:57.371-08:002016-12-30T05:35:57.371-08:00I'd been thinking lately about the early Repub...I'd been thinking lately about the early Republicans and, indeed, what a diversity there was among them. I recently bought THE WIDENING GYRE(Altan)[ not easy to come across in Western Australia, as you can imagine] which contains an amazing musical version of WB YEATS, WHITE BIRDS dedicated to Maud Gonne. I can't stop listening to that particular track. Not being musical I'm not sure how easy it is to put a poem unadulterated to music, but goodness it's lovely. Anyway, it brings to mind that republicanism wasn't an exclusively Catholic movement, certainly nationalism encompassed all sorts. However, at the same time, there has to be something altogether unhealthy about a Catholicism that feels little or nothing for it's own nation(or ethnicity [ because I'm speaking as someone who's not Irish by birth and have only lived there for a short part of my life]) and , as you say, the challenges today to our spirit and culture are different but perhaps more deadlySéamus, Australianoreply@blogger.com